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OK Boomers; stay cool

It’s not a criticism; It’s an observation



 

 

Sometimes when I hover over a keyboard, the magic disappears. During those times, I aimlessly scour the internet looking for inspiration or at least, subject matter. Lucky for me on this day, Tammy Ziv provided that inspiration.

Tammy Ziv, if that isn’t a Russian Bot, writes time wasting articles accompanying loads of advertising on internet pages masquerading as online magazines. The article that caught my eye was called Things Baby Boomers Still Think are Cool. I tried, and failed, to find any biographical information about Tammy Ziv; I did locate some of her more informative articles; Spectacular Vacation Spots that No Longer Exist, Curious Facts about The Sound of Music, and Hilarious Job Fails. I have no issue with people finding inventive ideas to make money by stringing words together. I know first hand it’s a hard way to earn money. I also have no qualms with anyone finding a niche that provides extra cash by double dipping or writing mindless stuff just to get clicks. Lots of people do that. I do have a problem with someone either writing about something they are woefully uninformed about or being too lazy to do a little research.

The first thing I found irritating about Ziv’s hit piece on old people was her blatant discrimination. Her main focus was criticizing Baby Boomers for things she saw as something all of us do. Intolerance 101 requires a group of people to be reduced to one representative set of behaviors. They’re all like that is standard language for bigots worldwide. Saying that all Boomers are identical is stupid, among other things. The 15 or so that gather at the Social Grill each afternoon aren’t even close to identical; much less the millions of others still kicking.

In her list Ziv mentions Crocs, dry toast, and Jorts. I’m innocent of ever wearing the first, eating the second, or wearing the third since junior high. Most of the seniors I know remember cutoffs but have never heard of Jorts. And golf? Golf is about the only thing old people can still play. At least we’re outside, not in our mother’s basement staring at a monitor.

I’m also against anyone deriding old people until they have walked a mile in our Skechers. Most criticism toward Boomers is age related, not item related. Until you start feeling your body change on a daily basis and you still get up, take a shower, and fight the battle anyway, shut up about what others do.

But my real issue with this whole article is the inclusion of cool in the title. Using cool to criticize seniors is an affront to all Boomers. Cool as a stand alone descriptive first appeared in the 1930s, like so many other trend setting things, in Black communities. Jazz musicians picked it up and popularized it in the late ’40s before white America teenagers in the ’50s began to use it to symbolize everything cool.

That’s right, Tammy, Baby Boomers invented the most popular descriptive phrase ever, and you don’t even realize it. Just shows how little you know. We also invented skateboards and got humans to the moon.

So write uninformed drivel about somebody else.

42 responses to “OK Boomers; stay cool”

  1. P. Weg says:

    If Tammy is a real person, she would have flunked Middle School English if she was in class with my 30 something children, or at least not have received any good metrics beyond nice try or whatever they give to encourage ‘D’ level students these days.

    • WTH is Tammy Ziv? This has to be a ghost-writer…or something. Who uses the word “cool” anymore? I’m 64 so ‘cool’ was never a descriptive go-to word for me anyway. I actually stopped reading it because I thought it was a joke of some kind and wasn’t interested in wasting my time to get to the punchline. Oh well, have a restful weekend, everyone.

    • Caddy Ranch says:

      If Ziv is a real person, the worst thing her boomer parents ever did was produce offspring stupid enough to write such drivel.

  2. Cynthia says:

    Thank you, I had the exact same reaction. Bashing anyone is characterless and wisdom – less. Let’s pray she makes it to an older age so she can gain both…

    • Exactly, I’m generation x and the things she said wasn’t cool anymore…was either hoarding or for lazy people. I mean come on, knick knacks are cool and just add water to concentrate oj.. I thought how old is this person?? And I got this which verified my erk for having to read this article. Get a gripe Tammy. Which you are probably just a teenager which then explain everything.

      • marie says:

        What chocked me in all that shit she wrote is about fast food! Omfg the young generation eat more fast food than the babyboomers! I would say to her….live and let die!

    • Lori says:

      Thank you also. I don’t know why I wasted my time even reading her “opinions”.
      Her misinformation and intolerance of peoples differences is hypocritical

      • James Kiver says:

        Amazing how Tammy Ziv has perfected the arrogant, mean and smarmy tone of the totalitarian DNC committee hearings- these people truly deserve each other. Tammy Ziv’s next article could be titled, ‘Why am I such a lonely despicable person?’ and proceed to blame all her problems on some other ‘group’ of people she feels virtuously entitled to hate while calling for an end to hate and discrimination. What a hypocritical phony fraud!

      • I completely agree. This particular naive millennial is not only ignorant of facts but appears to be one of the most judgemental individuals I’ve ever encountered in articles. Opinions of a person who needs to experience real life education still is of very little value to anyone.

        • Val says:

          I totally agree. I tried to do a background search on “Tammy Ziv” to see the face of the person who wrote this discriminatory, biased article. I was unsuccessful in my search, but gratified to see that many others had the same reaction to her uninformed, largely ignorant opinions

  3. Victor Gonzales says:

    Well said, I’m thinking the same thing about the existence of such a person.

  4. Gary C. says:

    You said it so well, I too was looking for any information I could find about her, but found none. The part that got to me the most was her comment about our using up social security. In her words: “Saving up for retirement is a good idea, but when you guys empty out all the money Social Security has, the rest of us will never be able to retire. Since you helped set these systems up, that hardly seems fair” Okay Tammy…First of all, that was set up before our time, and second, I have worked full time for 48 years and have never collected a dime from the government. If I am lucky, I may be able to collect for 5 years before I pass, and that will be barely above poverty level. So for this child to complain about our using up the social security and leaving her with nothing is nothing but the voice of entitlement. Grow up little girl, and tell us how you feel after you have actually paid something into the system.

    • Eric Schultz says:

      Not only that, but many of the big-spending policies that younger people naively support are simply spending unlocked Social Security funds meant to be there when they get old.

      I’m an “x-er” but I’ll add one complaint about people like Tammy Ziv on behalf of the Boomers… apparently, nobody taught Millennial like Tammy math and, certainly, nobody taught them finance or economics. Pitty for them as I stand and watch them spend their retirement funds decades before they need it. I’m not old, but probably won’t be around to hear their whining when they aren’t left with anything but poverty in their old age.

      My advice to any Millennial who is smarter than Tammy (most are)… build your own nest egg because idiots like her will spend Social Security funds long before you need it. While they are spending it, they’ll be chanting things such as “Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!”

      • Jay Sinclair says:

        Well written!

        If TZ isn’t an antagonistic bot, this woefully ignorant person most likely: *still resides in parent’s(s’) domicile,
        *has never bought the first financially-enriching-yet-taxing home,
        *cannot fathom a tort being anything other than tasty delicacies,
        *has only participation trophies as most likely does not understand healthy competition builds character
        and…
        *has revolving credit cards charging 29.984%APR maxed out (no doubt) buying superfluous video equipment, couture shoes, gummies by the ton, vaping accoutrements, ad infinitum.

    • Couldn’t have said it better….I too looked everywhere to find this mouthpiece who has no idea about anything….grow up girl!

  5. DAN MCNEIR says:

    THINGS TAMMY ZIV THINKS ARE COOL. 1) WASTING PEOPLES TIME WITH BULL S..T BLOGS WHILE STILL LIVING AT MOM’S HOUSE. 2) THINKING THAT EVERYONE BORN BTW 1948 AND 1964 IS STILL DOING THESE THINGS. ( i DON’T KNOW ANYONE WHO IS). 3) BASHING A GENERATION OF PEOPLE FOR A GOOD LAUGH AND A PAY CHECK. ETC.ETC. I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME.

  6. Amber says:

    Thank you for writing this. Like others here, I’m actually a Gen Xer (very close to Millennial, but I don’t even recall hearing about them until around the late ’90s), but I was offended by so many aspects of this writer’s article. The worst part of it all is her obvious ignorance and stupidity—seriously, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were written by a ten-year-old, and even for some of them that’s insulting. I didn’t get very far into her clickbait titled article, but as soon as I saw the first item, about diamonds, I should have known. If someone wants to invest (or indulge) their hard-earned money in a gem, who are you to say it’s better spent on paying for someone else’s education? I’ve heard all the complaints about tuition, but you can find plenty of schools with reasonable tuition enough to pay your way through. My (state) school’s yearly tuition is still within $500 of where it was when I graduated almost 20 years ago. Also, millennials seem to love Dirty Dancing, so if they want to see someone looking good in jean shorts, there’s Baby. And who eats dry toast unless they’re sick or they’ve run out of any topping? But the real kicker was the Social Security thing. So Silent Gens and Baby Boomers paid in their entire working lives, but they’re supposed to take a cut or just go without? It was a stupid socialist plan to force people to create some kind of leveled-off retirement fund funneled through bureaucracy, but they did it, and generations had to follow the law. It’s long been the generations currently earning that actually provide the liquid assets to pay for the recipient end, but that’s because it’s an idiotic system, not because someone’s “using it up.” Imagine, this snarker thinking people aren’t entitled to the money taken from their paychecks from first to last and promised to them as retirement income! If she’s worried Gen Z and following generations aren’t going to be able to foot her Social Security benefits, maybe she should think twice about plans like a universal income or more social welfare programs.

  7. Kevin Arnold says:

    Thank you

  8. diane says:

    Excellent article and I wholeheartedly agree with everything. Ms. Ziv seems to forget that boomers created the Internet, the computer and the infrastructure that enables her to publish her garbage. She obviously didn’t pay any attention in school, if she even has an education at all. I highly suspect that her parents were/are boomers and she hates them. What a shame that they wasted any time or their money on raising such a pitiful excuse of a human being.

  9. Steve says:

    Mike – Thank you for writing this article. I’m at the tail end of Baby Boomers and so I clicked in. I hate these click bait style web sites but clicked in because of curiosity as to how the social media and internet are going to lie, manipulate, and attempt to divide us next. I’m an engineer and continue to apologize for our generation developing the internet and tools that enabled everyone to give their opinion to everyone else. People are weaponizing social media and laws, tools and processes need to be created to combats these criminals. When you can randomly call people to go to a location and as a mob destroy an area becomes common new defensive ideas need to be developed. What I think is being missed and maybe this slide was taken out was Things baby boomers think are cool ‘Nationalism’. I went through the slides again and didn’t see it, but it was there in the first version I saw. This set me off that the site was suggesting ‘Nationalism’ is uncool and only old people are into nationalism. I think a lot of stupid people are confusing ‘Nationalism’ with ‘Racism’. Good education helps battle this type of stupidity. Less opinion, lies and more facts is what the internet needs. So I thank you for this article you wrote helping to expose this bit of moronic production. Thank you.

    • Christopher H says:

      I found a single page version of her rant so as not to earn her any extra clicks. Everyone here makes good points, but what many haven’t mentioned is that Tammy labeled things as uncool simply because they were older technology. I seriously doubt she could have made a living without her cell phone. Of course people used newspapers and telephone books…there was no internet! And fossil fuel isn’t cool either but it’s just fine to burn coal in a power plant to charge up her electric car! We won’t even talk about the total lack of infrastructure needed to support non fossil fueled cars.
      Finally, let’s talk about her education. Twice she mentioned tuituon. That tells me she paid too much for her education and feels someone else should have paid for it. Sorry, Millennial, you can’t get everything for free. It’s not our job nor the governments job to support you so quit checking online for that next stimulus check and get a real NINE TO FIVE JOB! (intentional caps)

      • Kristen Adorno says:

        As an ashamed millennial, I completely agree with EVERYTHING you said! I hate being associated with my generation. I’m so thankful that I was raised my a fellow boomer, whom was a Marine, and 2 wonderful grandparents that stepped in to help raise me while my dad worked his tail off to support me. They taught me that nothing is handed to you in life for free. It takes hard work. They also taught me to save up for retirement, starting young, and also to take care of my credit. Here I am, 29 yrs old, married to another ashamed millennial, living in our forever home with our 2 kids almost totally debt free – except a small mortgage- because we flipped a home and saved every dime to be able to put down a large amount on our forever home. My husband and I stand firm on the sanctity of marriage – something our generation doesn’t believe in – and also the roles we play as male and female to work together to make a good life and happy home. I work a full time job, home school both kids, and still make time to make sure dinner is ready for my husband. My husband works long hours and does most of the providing and keeps a roof over our head and he deserves to be taken care of. Some would say that I do more than him but I don’t think so, it’s my job as a mother and wife to take care of our kids and home. Anyways, I love my family so I enjoy it! If you ask me, the older generations had it right! My husband and I don’t have social media and we are thankful. Smartphones are great and all, but I’d much rather go back to a time where we didn’t have smart phones and all the technology we have today. I think we were born during the wrong time! Lol.

        • Linda says:

          Are you for real? “The roles we play as male and female”?? Even I, as a baby boomer, find that extremely backward and offensive!!!

  10. Barbara says:

    I came here to put in my two cents, but all of you pretty well summed it up. She sounds like an idiot – and far from cool.

  11. Rabi RABBIT says:

    hold on folks . this should shed some light on her character and intelligence shes a real estate agent in Jerusalem. hahahaha…remember they are the smartest folks in the room.
    just a bit smarter than car salesperson. but deserves the same amount of public respect. lazy and hawkers for easy money.. but it is said she is bi lingual. so she has that going for her…but that too is necessary in that part of the world as they don’t know where they are from really. those people are still arguing over that since the beginning of the world. she does have a nice set of teeth though which is surprising since her lineage is Moroccan and British. I suppose if your gonna live amongst those that live in caves and fight over rock you might need teeth like that to chomp on sedimentary remains people like her have been fighting over since the beginning of time. she’s definitely not cool. please send her some wood or carrots to chop on

    • rosamartin says:

      huh?
      You know the Lady?
      doesn’sound like it…
      “…hold on folks . this should shed some light on her character and intelligence shes a real estate agent in Jerusalem. hahahaha…remember they are the smartest folks in the room.
      just a bit smarter than car salesperson.”

  12. Julie says:

    Poor Tammy. Time to get a life instead of obsessing about how others live theirs don’t you think? Proud to be a boomer surrounded by friends of all ages. Wouldn’t occur to me to judge them even when they do what are to me strange things. Happiness reigns.

  13. Marilyn A Bieber says:

    Yes, I guess the article was just bait for the ads that apply to a specific age group. I found it all highly insulting, regardless of the motive behind it. Advertisers should do the exact opposite: promote a more visible and positive personification of older Americans. I will take down all the advertisers and reach out to them and let them know that their advertising dollars just had a detrimental affect on their business. If we want to begin to cause change, it’s through withdrawing our business and/or supporting those who do consider age in their DEI initiatives.

  14. steve says:

    Tammy show your photo I want to see what someone with your opinions looks like. I know you won’t because you are a coward hiding behind a fake name. You need an attitude adjustment.

  15. Candace says:

    I found this page when I Googled “Tammy Ziv.” I searched for this imbecile because I was infuriated by one of her asinine articles attacking Boomers. Age-ism to a ludicrous degree and blaming Boomers for everything under the sun. Moronic, inaccurate and ridiculous content. I think a robot writes the drivel since it’s cringe-worthy and written by someone with a 78 IQ (if not a robot).

  16. lisa says:

    If she is the chick in the pic from Jerusalem, she is quite a barker and just as ugly inside as out.

  17. LEE ROLLER says:

    Yeah I ran across some of her stuff. Pick out a bunch of stuff that society has moved beyond and ridicule people who came before her for having used it.

    I didn’t see one thing in her drivel that anyone is actually clinging to and refusing to move on from.

    It’s just made up bullsh*t masquerading as content.

  18. Terry says:

    I can’t believe I am commenting on an article this old but her socialism is rubbing my kudos in a bad way. No we don’t sit around playing Boston 8 tracks. Plain toast, why is the gripe about toast? That makes her look like a stiffed hooker in my book.

  19. Owen Gidlow PLS says:

    Thanks for standing up to the Liars and Hypocrites that hide behind a computer monitor. Ms. Thing (aka Tammy) is Queen of her own mind, thinking anyone else gives two hoots about what she says.

    We grew up in a time when everyone knew their neighbor and helped without asking, when anyone needed it. We gave more than we took and lived by the Golden Rule. Good manners and sportsmanship were expected and if you didn’t comply, you were left out. It was simple. Respect your Elders. Go to school or work, do your best and make the world better.

    I am guilty of being all those things, including shorts, sunglasses & sneakers as my summertime outfit. I don’t care what others say, especially now that I’m in my 60’s. I work hard every day and hope to retire to spend my days golfing and helping my community by coaching or volunteering.

    Anyway, my Hometown in WNY is called the city of Good Neighbors and The BILLS MAFIA. We care about everyone. Even the idiots that lie every day and spew the junk that we see from Tammy. In the end, WE Boomers will have the last laugh ’cause these “snowflakes” will self destruct one day, having their lies and the Truth bury them in the Real World.

  20. Susan says:

    I Googled her name because that “article” was so absolutely ridiculous, and I did see anywhere to reply! Don’t tell Britain that TOAST is “uncool”, the entire nation live by it. I’m surprised she didn’t say something like TEA was uncool! Exhausted by just reading 1/2 of that piece, otherwise, I’d hunt her down, just to write to her saying one word:”NEOPHYTE!”

  21. Jim Fernandez says:

    I came across this piece as a few did trying to determine who this nitwit was. I was ever so gratified to see it wasn’t just me.

    A few months ago I overheard my 15 year old grandson describe me to one of his cronies as “pretty cool” so I don’t believe I’ll be losing much sleep over this one.

    *Picks teeth at Tammy Ziv*

  22. Stan says:

    I’m proud to be an American Boomer! I was a firefighter, I didn’t make much money. My first run was an auto accident. Two college students died. I had to pull their bodies out from the wreck. I suffered from PTSD for years… but I loved my job helping people.
    🙏🙏🇺🇲

  23. Davi Rajch says:

    Just like another writer wrote here, I planned to express my reaction to Tammy, but you fellow Baby Boomers, have said it all. I’ve been incredibly naive, coming to learning about Baby Boomer bashing late. I still can’t believe it. Just the same, I guess as boomers when we were under 30, we did our share of old people judging. Dylan was right, at least I thought at that time, you can’t trust anyone over 30. I’m glad I found this page because I see how much power us Boomers still hold. Our power is in our shared memories and experiences of a certain era, and as at least one of you has written here, out honest and good values, and most of all, the ideals we protested for. Of course, there are lower values we fastened to, including materialism. But in my old age–I am 73 now–I can look back, and both forgive and remember, the good and bad. Many of you may find comfort in looking back soberly at our times, through the decades, including our personal stories, that reflect and ring familiar to those of us of a particular age. Please check out my blogs related to this at wavecraftrider.medium.com Many of them are drafts of chapters you might find later next year when my memoir, Diaries of An Ocean Lover, will be published and released.

  24. Concetta Vanpatten says:

    Thank you for your professional opinion on Ms. Ziv’s discriminatory and disrespectful Baby Boomer writings.I have written to the Lifestyles publication about her article with my concerns and there was no response. Today, it was published again. As a baby boomer who has lived through duck and cover drills and panic over the threat of nuclear innihilation ,the assassinations of President Kennedy, his brother, Senator Bobby Kennedy, and
    Dr. Martin Luther King. I watched the coverage of the Vietnam War as body bags were shown every night on the 6 o clock news while my brother served in the Army stationed in Da Nang.
    On a less depressing note, I watched the Beatles on Ed Sullivan along with others , too numerous to mention, who changed the face of music, not only in America, but around the world. I remember when Pampers were invented and after only one week I could cancel my baby’sdiaper service.
    I remember the thrill of watching color t.v. for the first time and later, the expression on my father’s face when he heard a Walkman for the first time in his life.
    Of course there are many more events and experiences that persons from another generation likely will not understand or appreciate. But that lack of understanding ought not lead to public ridicule of an entire group of people . Ms. Ziv illustrates the concept of discrimination and bullying quite well in her article on Baby Boomers.

  25. Kevin Gray says:

    Thank you all for saving this “Boomer,” the trouble of responding to the nitwit responsible for that article. 👍

  26. Clifford Daniel Fowler says:

    Tammy Ziv is a hack writer, who believes her opinion to be content, as well as humorous, and she loves the sound of her never ending drivel. Transistor radios? Right, in 1962, at the beach, it was what we had. But which generation did Tomas Dolby, Ray Kurtzweil, Les Paul, Lee Iacocca, Caroll Shelby, and most
    O nof the trendsetters and pathfinders ofevery technology that exists today come out of? Boomers-Baby. Imagined and created by the generation she loves to make fun of, most of the transition to the digital era was made by a ed our moto of us analog dinosaurs, rolas, who listened to and was gifted the experience of a musical revolution so heavy that we turned our motorolas in for Marantz, Technichs, and Acoustical Research (AR3As) and Design Acoustic gear just so we could keep up with the incredible sound explosion the produced new music and new recording techniques daily. Now multiply that by the number of industrys that were created new, and those that already existed that we pulled from the analog era to the digital ear, and feed em steroids, and you’ll get a better read on just how industrious the boomers really were. So next time Ms Ziv decides to rag on a generation of those who accomplished more in their time in the world, who experienced things her mind couldnt even begin to fathom, who were the #1 coolest generation ever, no contest, who knew how to count back change, and read and write in cursive, and had the insight and intelligence to see the world as it really is today, but were raised well enough to remember if we dont have anything good to say about a generation or four, its best to keep quite, and live and let live. Thats how we were raised, Ms Ziv. We called that particular training ” manners”, and our ability to hold our tongues ” wisdom”, maturity and prudence. Keep cheching out us Baby- Boomers and you just might learn a thing or two yourself. After all, who better to learn from, than those who truly have been there, & done that? Youre grippin now!

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